We need to connectI would love to talk with you. Amazing! I am going to make a trip to oklahoma, not to far , we now live in Arkansas. They run a great organization called The Rainbow House. Home Watts, Elizabeth . cariewestbrook@live.com, Hi Carie, My name I Sheila King. What do you make of all this? You can find out more on RootsWeb, (Miller/Rider/Dees)Note* Granuaille means Grasshopper. I just found out that I am part of this family! There are myriad original documents supporting my posted FACTS that were kept by the early Moravians, Indian agents, and military/widows' pensions for service in which the Cherokee participated. I just started this ancestry.com. >k.c. brother of Talonteskee, born about 1770. No sense arguing with someone trying to push a false agenda. Read Scott's orders. I checked ouut the Essary tree looking for any Links to England or Ireland and found nothing as all mainly USA Then I stumbled upon Elizabeth Mcdaniel wo married an Essary. How they were excluded from the Nation because they were black? The information about the Dortons seems to have been added by someone no longer connected to the profile, but I will wait a couple of days before detaching them and replacing the bio with documented facts in case there are any objections or discussion. I am related to may of you! There was no such person as Mary Bluesky Cornstalk and the name of Parker's second wife, Mary, is unknown. Please just so I can show people I know working on information of the Moytoy and between Moytoy having children. Does anyone have any information of direct descendants of Moytoy I or II that are on the Dawes Final Rolls? Catherine "Katie" Copeland, born abt 1811 was married to Shadrack Jackson, my grandfather many times distant. God Bless You . Am I reading this history correct? His name was Jace Maxfield. But, that is a whole other story as it turned out to be Choctaw. Sonja Yount iyount1@att.net. As someone also doing research, I find your story quite interesting. There is a Heather comment, which doesn't need any cleaning up as far as I am concerned. Chief Benge's father was Jphn Benge, a white trader who lived with the Indians for most of his adult life. It is incredible that all this is actually documented. Elizabeth Watts Net Worth. My Grand daughter who is 7, Is very interested an wanted me to look up a few. As a descendent of Attacullaculla (a member of the family by marriage, adoption, and possibly blood), family tradition often solves a lot of these problems. John Jolly (Due): John Jolly was a Cherokee chief, (half?) Start a free family tree online and well do the searching for you. US government required a person to "validate" their "native claim", first, as a way of counting the population which they were removing from native soils, and, then, to "prove" their right to receive federal dollars for support. I just discovered from ancestry.com that I am also a direct descendant of Amatoya Moytoy. With no cross checking or error corrections etc. My blessings to each of my Moytoy blood ties!! You can find out more on RootsWeb, (Miller/Rider/Dees)Note* Granuaille means Grasshopper. His son James Vann became a very rich Cherokee by betraying the Cherokee. Hi Relatives!!! She is from United Kingdom. She can't give you any sources, because their are none. Now I had the surname Moytoy I decided to check for matches on Ancestry and found several all connected to Rainmaker Moytoy. Robin Moytoy married Rowland Judd and they moved to Wilkes county , NC. Moytoy II Emperor of the Cherokees.I'm extremely interested in finding others who are descendants to Moytoy IIemail wsxr1 at yahoo dot com. View Description. Fred Fuchs: I am wondering if Ernest Essary might be my great uncle. I'm very interested #1 if I was adopted if on roll can I still apply? Gathered from those who lived during the same time period, were born in the same place, or who have a family name in common. Cat Vann - My Great Grandmother married a Vann and my ancestors are John Vann and Agnes Weatherford. I have arched on ancestry.com that links it all. Either you're Cherokee or you're not.It isn't the quantity of Cherokee blood in your veins that is important, but the quality of it . Bob Benge and his brother The Tail are described as the nephews of John Watts and great-nephews of Old Tassel, leading to the conclusion that their mother was the sister of John Watts. you can reach me at karynbishof10@gmail.comthank you so much! Easy, he was selling off Cherokee lands. Elizabeth Watts Red Paint Clan Cherokee passed away on 1795 in St Joseph River, Crow Creek Settlement, Arkansas. jeudi 8 novembre 1979, Journaux, Ottawa :[Le droit],1913- . Robert Due, the Indian Trader -or- the son of Robert Due and some other Cherokee woman. There are plenty of federally recognized white people among the Cherokee. I have found record of Elizabeth Judd married to Benjimin Pennell burried in Winkler cemetary in Boone, NC. Please email me is any of u share a connection hhokomo@aol.com. V. Adams->Wiley Vaughn Adams & Eugenia Olive Adams->Polly Vann (born Terrapin), John Cherokee Oowanee Vann, John Interpreter Vann, John Trader Vann. John Watts 1746-1808 was the "mixed-blood", or mixed-race son of British trader John Watts 1704-1779 and a Cherokee mother, Oousta White Owl Carpenter 1722-1768. Any information on this line would be appreciated. John Watts father was a white trader and interpreter (also named John Watts) who came into the Cherokee Nation before 1752. Four generations below them in my tree lies Martha Conner and her daughter Beulah Francis Tucker. I have since figured out that I may not be descendant of Bluesky, do of Moytoy II of Tellico. On my other line, I descend directly from Rowes, Albertys and other old Cherokee families. I am a direct descendant of Col. Stephen Copeland. I have met many cousins on the King Connect NA on Facebook with Cherokee and Powhatan ancestors. Peruse the muster rolls and Old Settler rolls of Cherokee families and individuals who were forced to IT. Ancestry .com is a fantastic resource; but so many of my cousins lock their trees, and my eyes are failing me; the Dawes rolls are not easy to use. As with most early Cherokee women, almost nothing is known of the woman called "Wurteh Watts," the mother of Bob "The Bench" Benge. Every one of us searching needs encouraged, support, and guidance. DNA will not do you any good, given the fact that several members who registered with the Dawes Commission were White, of various European origins, some were Black, former African American slaves, who came to be known as the Freedmen, identified as member by marriage or adopted into the nation. You can't even begin to understand the vagaries of the Cherokee Nation if you don't know it's history. The senior Watts, father of Young Tassell, served as the official British government Indian interpreter for the area until his death in 1779. 1847, in DeSota County, Mississippi. Also her parents were William David MCDANIEL b: 1726 in TNMother: Granuaille(*), (**) Su-Ki MOYTOY HOPPER b: 1725 in Chota, TN.. Granuaille Su-Ki MOYTOY HOPPER's parents were Chief Kana-gatoga MOYTOY, CALLED HOPPER b: 1690 in Upper Hiwasee, ChotaMother: Su-Gi (CHEROKEE, WOLF CLAN) b: 1695 in Chota, TN. I learned Chief Oconostota is my 9th Great Grandfather. Any other tribes claiming to Cherokees are fake - not recognized through history, culture, etc. Shawnee and Cherokee, they remembered their blood ties to Thomas Carpenter and by associative lineage based on their own societal order, to the British and, by extension, to the new Americans. "Working with Elizabeth Watts was an absolute pleasure. I don't know how many times I heard her say she wished she'd never told me. She joined the TV station in August 2016 and anchors the network's news on weeknights and also brings the 360 Your help would be treasured.Carol, I am also a descendent of Moytoy. Obediah Martin Benge: He was a white man, a well-documented Revolutionary War soldier, the son of a white woman named Elizabeth Lewis(?) Malachi is the son of Robert Parris and Penny Langley. His research is very extensive and was/is on point with the information that was given to me. she was born in 1912 died 1983. her connection was through granny hopper,and thomas essary. I have been trying to find the father & mother of Elizabeth Booker or Harris 1733-1800 wife of Philemon Bradford Jr. Of course the father & mother I keep finding on Ancestry is this George Booker and Agatagwi "captured Cherokee women" I'd love to hear any ideas or tips. I"m a Cherokee citizen thru Caleb Starr Thompson on the Dawes Roll.My question is the info on this website about the relatives past Nancy Ward clear back to the "Moytoy of Tellico". It couldn't have been the Vanns could it? I believe that Amatoya Moytoy I is my 10th great grandfather through his son Kanagatoga AKA ((Old Hop), ("Standing Turkey), (Cunne Shote) Moytoy but only if Conaleuski AKA Robert John Challange Wilson is his grandson (Amatoya MOytoy I grandson) I found it somewhere that he was the next line if so I would like to know how to become a card carrying member of one one the Cherokee tribes. Can you please share with me the sources you are using to back the data on your Moytoy I? My new email address is ol_man_emu@bigpond.com. The same Joseph Vann who was sent in for the Transylvania Land Company by the Virginia banking firm of Isaiah Isaacs and Jacob Cohen to help illegally purchase Kentucky. As always, I love becoming aquainted with new family members, no matter how distant the kinship. how was attacullaculla and kanastoga both grandfathers of Major ridge andGeneral Stand Watie, Amatoya Moytoy is your 9th great grandfather. We never knew where my ggrandfather came from, but thanks to Ancestry.com, I now know that his ggrandmother was Cornblossom, daughter or Doublehead. I matched someone who has the Essary Surname. If you could send my a message on my face book page or an email I would appreciate it. To broaden the results, try using our global search. Elizabeth worked as a news anchor and reporter for KOAA News5 from August 2016 to July 23, 2021. while there, she received quite a fulfilling amount. The last thing you should be worried about is who is or isn't a real Cherokee. She got married had a daughter and named her Lucy ward the all. sharon does it matter how far back? (https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/0021-0017.html#IND5015REF31) Hicks attempted to group people who were known to be relatives into families. "Chickamauga Cherokee Wars (1776-1794) - part 7 of 9", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Watts_(Cherokee_chief)&oldid=1130442447, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0. Cet interrupteur multifonction de rechange convient aux modles Wrangler JK, 07-18 Compass /Patriot MK, 08-12 Liberty KK, 08-10 Commander XK et 08-10 Grand Cherokee WK. It is my humble opinion that they were wrong. He planned to lead a campaign into the Cumberland region of Appalachia. My family has connection through Granny Hopper and Thomas Essary. Do you.have an actual family tree showing descendants? My 5th great grandmother was Robin Joyce Moytoy " Raven" daugther of Chief Standing Turkey Moytoy Most beloved of the Cherokees Boen in 1704. in TN. I would appreciate any information about this couple. !I am LowreyMajor George Lowrey & Lucy Benge are where my family take off begins where we are relatedOh how our ancestors would love to know we are all here, that they are here in usShelly in California. I am a citizen of the Cherokee Nation. SUV LC205979 For Sale at 21st Century Auto Group Springfield 07081 I have no date for her death. Thanks! Yeah. Trader was born in 1720, in Bowling Green, Caroline, Virginia, USA. His user name on Ancestry.com was Tahlequah. I am hoping to find any records of John Ward (my great grandfather) and his wife Emma. How could this be if these people above say his father is/was from England? I would think that would be a HUGE fraud on the Ancestry.Com people, Thank you so much. Do you have a relative on the Dawes Roll, Shadow? [1] Watts' parents resided in the Overhill Towns along the Little Tennessee River. There is no documentation to support this conclusion. Watts, along with Bloody Fellow, Doublehead, and "Young Dragging Canoe" (Tsula), continued to encourage Indian unity in resistance to European-American settlers. Does any one have any proof of any Moytoy existing and any brothers or sisters having relating to any Moytoy, please email me at starrbellababby@yahoo.com. The Cherokee warriors proceeded against White's Fort (modern day Knoxville, Tennessee), where they were repulsed. Nenetoonyah/Bloody Fellow; [[Moytoy-123]] This comes straight from a theory of James Hicks with zero documentation. Teach us what a real Cherokee is, please. Am hoping to correspond with those with documentary evidence of these links as I'm a descendent of Black Fox (via William Davis), Attakullakulla and Moytoy. I do know my clan is the Wolf clan. His pension application (images on Fold3 at. ) **Also known as Sally, Sookie, and Granny Hopper. I have sent a message to the man that seems to have been the first to add this information to his tree as everyone after him, was traced back to him. Doublehead argued for the former, while James Vann advocated the latter. Oops, one final comment, Anonymous. . SOOKIE SUSANNAH Su'Gi "GRASSHOPPER" Moytoy is my 5th great grandmother on the opposite side of my family. I am so glad I have found this! even with all of the info, it means nothing to CN because they were not enrolled during the 7 years they require. Olivia Newton-John Dead at 73: The Star and Grease Icon Dies of Breast Cancer. Omix-ADA propose firement une vaste collection de pices de rechange de qualit OE pour les vhicules Jeep & Willys pour aider garder la lgende de la Jeep en vie. Thomas 'married' the mixed blood daughter of Col. James Moore, SC Gov, and when he died, Mary Moore Ayres, his wife, gave their son to the White half brother, John Ayres. Afterward, the group made a semi-permanent camp along Flint Creek (in the area of the future Unicoi County, Tennessee), harassing, raiding, and attacking white settlers in the surrounding countryside. CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE TO KARYNBISHOF10@GMAIL.COM. In my line Tharp marries a female Vance. "Notable Persons in Cherokee History: Dragging Canoe". 1899. Elizabeth was Cherokee. Each marriage was consummated under the Cherokee laws. william r kirkland(part shawnee)I am proud of my new found heritage. This put the Cherokee closer to their Muscogee allies while shielding them from the westward expansion of the new United States. She would interview me for multiple news stories and her reporting skills were excellent. Her mother and John Vann are my 5x-grands. When ELIZABETH WATTS was born in 1755, in Cherokee, Washington, Tennessee, United States, her father, John Watts, was 31 and her mother, Tali Wurteh Red Paint Wadi, was 45. Really it's because the roles have closed except to newborns whose parents must take a DNA test to prove Eastern Cherokee blood. I believe he should be detached from Wurteh. I can't see a powerful chief not pursuing this and getting his daughter back. Taxpayer Name NAVEEVA INC owns the Cigarette / Tobacco Retailer license for WATTS GROCERY which is location number 1, with the taxpayer ID of 32079674340 in DENTON County. We've come from GREAT ANCESTORS and I'm so proud to know that WE are a part of History! In large part because the man responsible (who had lost his family in an Indian raid) was a close friend of John Sevier, the trial proved to be a farce. Could we be related? could this be my answer. I am surprised that so many people are so negative. My research has shown that Old hop Was considered cherokee his grandfather Thomas Corn planter Carpenter married a Shawnee woman who was adopted into the Cherokee. 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